miamirice

So Autoweek is gushing over the car. 2759lbs, lower center of gravity than the cayman, macpherson front, double wishbone rear, ..etc. I think these cars will be showing up at HPDE this summer. If any of you get one, or instruct a student in one can you please post your impressions.

I am also curious where this car will be classified with SCCA. Hopefully this puts pressure on Honda!

mugen22

Me too! I like the simplicity, the relatively low weight, rear drive and no nonsense approach to this car. Maybe its time for a successor to the Prelude/S2000....

Brian.

rice_classic

Oh how I wish Honda had this car.

I'll will probably be down at the dealership this weekend to order the Hot Lava FRS. It's kind of sad to say but other than the race car, I soon won't own a Honda.

Also, if the resale value on these is low (not due to quality but due to how many will be modified and modifications often lower resale value) then I will pick one up in 5 years, maybe with a salvage title, cage it and race it. It would make for a wonderful car at a 10:1 lb/hp ratio class like Sport Touring in Conference.

miamirice

X2. I am into a civic build for SCCA, but a few years from now I have to think this is going to be next, picked up used and plenty-o aftwemarket stuff. It's like a hardtop s2000, curious to drive the boxer motor

Mitchness

There's a local guy that autoxes one. He was lucky enough to be one of the initial 86. Runs in C stock IIRC. Took first in both days of races. It's not necessarily the fastest, but the damn thing corners like a go-kart.

I had the same idea as Rice Classic. 5 years down the road I'll be aiming to jump all over a used one of these. Toyota did this car right, and it'll be enough to win me back over to their side.

dirty19

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I dont know if anyone has seen the kit that Five Axis is putting out, but its soooo bad assssss!

http://www.fivead.net/aero-kits/scio...-aero-kit.html

Makes me wanna slap somebodys momma in the mouth!
Of course you cant stop with the aero kit, you have to do the new wheels and tires, suspension.......
Put a good high wing on this car, and man it should turn lots of heads.
Debating sprucing up a CRZ or this thing, i have to say im leaning toward the FR-S

Wooooooooooooooo!

JW racing

Yesh, 5 axis kit, and some rims with that lovely puuuuring boxer sound. I still like the Genesis coupe at the moment. Good battle on the market right now for compact rwd.

Boosted_01 R

IPG took the car for a test drive, maybe they can give their opinion

johnjw

I too am interested in this ka. The Scoob version of course. Will look at trading my WRX prob soon.

miamirice

This version has more understeer and they are shipping much fewer units.

essex

Frs is a fairly ugly car

viper_boy403

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:D

dirty19

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This concerns me .. fewer units the dealer mark up goes up.
Honda did this with the S2000.

However after speaking to both Subaru and Scion dealers near me they said they didnt plan on any dealer markup that the car would sell at msrp only unless options were added.

We shall see.

rice_classic

The fact that you have to debate that makes me think your momma should slap you in the mouth!

I like the looks of the FRS better than the BRZ. I think I might go order mine this weekend (since it'll be over a month before it shows up).

The only question for me is.... Hot Lava or Firestorm?!

dirty19

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Heee heeeeeeeeee I saw a few CRZ's in honda tuning and If there were a way to boost one legally for california i might be swayed because of loyalty to honda.
The HKS kit isnt carb legal. but im sure there will be options soon.
But since there isn't much of an option now.
I have to say ......... Firestorm!

JHall250

Like these two cars or not they are doing enthusiasts a HUGE favor. Entry level, no BS front engine rear wheel drive cars with Japanese quality. This category of cars could get huge and that can only be good for us enthusiasts. I was planning on getting an E36 M3 as my next car but I'm not so sure now considering the curb weight on the FRS, 400 lbs is a pretty big deal. At any rate I am excited to see where this whole thing goes.

0Innes

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I dig them -- I drove a FR-S this past weekend am very impressed - Fit and Finish for a $25k car is nice, driver position is great, handling feels good (remember it was just a basic test drive so didn't thrash it too much).

definitely needs about 75 more horsepower to really be a blast to drive, that will be done soon in the aftermarket i am sure

Should be an awesome track day car -- brake pads, fluid, coilovers and tires and you are going to enjoy the heck out of it on track.

i foresee these doing great for performance oriented minds for quite some time

KILLAB17VTEC

wtf?same sh*t as brz look a like?

GEN2 LS

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AMEN, I work at a local Subaru dealership and that was a big complaint with the car not enough power, like you stated i'm sure the aftermarket will fix that soon though.

dirty19

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Cobb or Crawford will turbo one of these soon.

0Innes

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yes, it is a co-branded car -- Toyota/Scion and Subaru built this together and they each have their own "versions" of it.

markertoo

COMPACT rwd? Have you SEEN a Genesis? That is a big car, and in no way could it be considered a compact. We have a trio of them in the CTCC, and they are 5 inches wider than a 2006+ Civic. 5"!

Paul 631

+1 ...nearly 1" wider than a C6 corvette.

Superhatch

They are almost a foot longer than the BRZ.

I picked up my BRZ on the 24th of May and I'm loving it.

Side note: There is a 75page BRZ thread in GDD which has a lot of great info in it.

Sammie.07

Would have been better if they teamed with Mazda and put a 13b turbo rotary !