when to change timing belt?
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Well then
well i'm NEW TO THIS FORUM so i didn't look so don't give me a hard time about it and the manual recommends replacing the water pump and timing belt every 60,000 miles!
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Re: Well then (I got the CD5 Jeebies!)
someone on here critized me because i didn't look hard enought i guess for how to kill my matience light. again i'm new to this forum and i've been more concerned with my outback lately then my accord. BTW, it's a 2001 honda accord um 2.3 Vtech ULEV 68k
oh yeah it was touringaccord who was like look it up this topic has been covered before
oh yeah it was touringaccord who was like look it up this topic has been covered before
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Timing belt replacement interval 2001 Accord
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 01accordsauce »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">someone on here critized me because i didn't look hard enought i guess for how to kill my matience light. again i'm new to this forum and i've been more concerned with my outback lately then my accord. BTW, it's a 2001 honda accord um 2.3 Vtech ULEV 68k
oh yeah it was touringaccord who was like look it up this topic has been covered before</TD></TR></TABLE>
You don't replace the timing belt until 105K miles
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by American Honda »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">105,000 mi/168,000 km/ 7 years
This two-page maintenance schedule outlines the minimum required maintenance. Service at the indicated time or distance, whichever comes first. Use the Maintenance Schedule for Severe Conditions if the vehicle meets any of the qualifiers listed in the severe conditions schedule or if the vehicle is normally driven in Canada.
According to state and federal regulations, failure to do the maintenance items marked with asterisk(*) will not void customer's emissions warranties. However, Honda recommends that all maintenance services be done at the recommended interval to ensure long-term reliability.
o Inspect valve clearance (cold) Intake: 0.24-0.28 mm (0.009-0.011 in.) Exhaust: 0.28-0.32 mm (0.011-0.013 in.)
o Replace spark plugs for '01 model. Use NGK (PZFR5F-11) or DENSO (PKJ16CR-L11).Gap: 1.0-1.1 mm (0.039-0.043 in.)
o Replace timing belt and balancer belt (Removal:, Installation and inspect water pump.
o Check idle speed. Should be 700+/-50 rpm in neutral (Automatic transmission in [N] or [P] position).
o Replace engine oil. -Capacity with filter change: 4.3 l (4.5 US qt, 3.8 Imp qt)
o Rotate tires. Follow the pattern shown in the Owner's Manual -Check tire inflation and condition.
o Replace engine oil filter.
o Inspect front and rear brakes.
Check pads and discs for wear (thickness), damage, and cracks.
Check calipers for damage, leaks, and tightness of mount bolts.
Check brake lining for cracking, glazing, wear, and contamination.
Check wheel cylinders for leaks.
o Check parking brake adjustment. Should be fully applied within 6 to 9 clicks (disc brake) or within 4 to 7 clicks (drum brake).
o Inspect tie rod ends, steering gearbox, and rack boots for damage and leaking grease and fluid.
Check steering linkage for looseness.
Check boots for damage and leaking grease.
o Inspect suspension components.
Check bolts for tightness.
Check condition of ball joint boots for deterioration and damage.
o Inspect driveshaft boots. Check boots for cracks and boot bands for tightness.
o Inspect brake hoses and lines (including ABS). -Check the master cylinder, proportioning control valve, and ABS modulator for damage and leakage.
o Check all fluid levels and condition of fluids; check for leaks. If necessary, add Honda ATF-Z1 or MTF, engine coolant, brake fluid, and windshield washer fluid.
o Inspect cooling system hoses and connections.
Check for damage, leaks, and deterioration.
Check for proper fan operation.
o Inspect exhaust system* . Check catalytic converter heat shield, exhaust pipe, and muffler for damage, leaks, and tightness.
o Inspect fuel lines and connections*. Check for loose connections, cracks and deterioration; retighten loose connections and replace damaged parts.
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oh yeah it was touringaccord who was like look it up this topic has been covered before</TD></TR></TABLE>
You don't replace the timing belt until 105K miles
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by American Honda »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">105,000 mi/168,000 km/ 7 years
This two-page maintenance schedule outlines the minimum required maintenance. Service at the indicated time or distance, whichever comes first. Use the Maintenance Schedule for Severe Conditions if the vehicle meets any of the qualifiers listed in the severe conditions schedule or if the vehicle is normally driven in Canada.
According to state and federal regulations, failure to do the maintenance items marked with asterisk(*) will not void customer's emissions warranties. However, Honda recommends that all maintenance services be done at the recommended interval to ensure long-term reliability.
o Inspect valve clearance (cold) Intake: 0.24-0.28 mm (0.009-0.011 in.) Exhaust: 0.28-0.32 mm (0.011-0.013 in.)
o Replace spark plugs for '01 model. Use NGK (PZFR5F-11) or DENSO (PKJ16CR-L11).Gap: 1.0-1.1 mm (0.039-0.043 in.)
o Replace timing belt and balancer belt (Removal:, Installation and inspect water pump.
o Check idle speed. Should be 700+/-50 rpm in neutral (Automatic transmission in [N] or [P] position).
o Replace engine oil. -Capacity with filter change: 4.3 l (4.5 US qt, 3.8 Imp qt)
o Rotate tires. Follow the pattern shown in the Owner's Manual -Check tire inflation and condition.
o Replace engine oil filter.
o Inspect front and rear brakes.
Check pads and discs for wear (thickness), damage, and cracks.
Check calipers for damage, leaks, and tightness of mount bolts.
Check brake lining for cracking, glazing, wear, and contamination.
Check wheel cylinders for leaks.
o Check parking brake adjustment. Should be fully applied within 6 to 9 clicks (disc brake) or within 4 to 7 clicks (drum brake).
o Inspect tie rod ends, steering gearbox, and rack boots for damage and leaking grease and fluid.
Check steering linkage for looseness.
Check boots for damage and leaking grease.
o Inspect suspension components.
Check bolts for tightness.
Check condition of ball joint boots for deterioration and damage.
o Inspect driveshaft boots. Check boots for cracks and boot bands for tightness.
o Inspect brake hoses and lines (including ABS). -Check the master cylinder, proportioning control valve, and ABS modulator for damage and leakage.
o Check all fluid levels and condition of fluids; check for leaks. If necessary, add Honda ATF-Z1 or MTF, engine coolant, brake fluid, and windshield washer fluid.
o Inspect cooling system hoses and connections.
Check for damage, leaks, and deterioration.
Check for proper fan operation.
o Inspect exhaust system* . Check catalytic converter heat shield, exhaust pipe, and muffler for damage, leaks, and tightness.
o Inspect fuel lines and connections*. Check for loose connections, cracks and deterioration; retighten loose connections and replace damaged parts.
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Re: Well then (accord99power)
yeah that's fine i took care of that. Listen i was told the belt should be replaced at 60k it's on page 267 of my 2001 accord owners manual that the timing belt should be replaced at 60,000miles or 100,000km. my subaru outback on the other hand the manual says to replace the timing belt at 105,000 miles
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Re: Well then (scabbs)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by scabbs »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">jus follow the honda book cause honda made it specifically for that car... I'd trust that one..</TD></TR></TABLE>x2
That's what the Honda manual is made for.
That's what the Honda manual is made for.
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The quote I posted is directly from American honda on ISIS, it's more accurate than a 6 year old book. (it's the website all dealerships use)
If you want to waste money and replace it too early then be my guest.
If you want to waste money and replace it too early then be my guest.
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i don't see what the problem is here? The Owners manual recommends replacing the timing belt at 60,000 miles. They wouldn't just say that, there's a reason for that because the belts could break and cause damage to your engine which what happened to my subaru just recently. Plus it's not a waste of money ither for myself because i'm not poor
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2001 Accord Maintnence schedule
Listen to me.
I understand what your owners manual says. It is not correct.
I work for a dealership, and have done so for the past 5 years. I have never seen a timing belt break on a Honda in less than 105K miles or 7 years. It RARELY ever happens.
The quote I posted is from the website we use that American Honda has posted themselves. It holds the current information. American Honda always advises you to check with ISIS to see if there is any updated information. This applies to your case.
If you don't believe me here is a screen shot of the correct owners manual page in PDF form.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/moogocow3/1484624967/
If you still don't believe me here is a screen shot of the page i quoted earlier
http://www.flickr.com/photos/moogocow3/1485488456/
Modified by Evil M0nkey at 3:50 PM 10/4/2007
I understand what your owners manual says. It is not correct.
I work for a dealership, and have done so for the past 5 years. I have never seen a timing belt break on a Honda in less than 105K miles or 7 years. It RARELY ever happens.
The quote I posted is from the website we use that American Honda has posted themselves. It holds the current information. American Honda always advises you to check with ISIS to see if there is any updated information. This applies to your case.
If you don't believe me here is a screen shot of the correct owners manual page in PDF form.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/moogocow3/1484624967/
If you still don't believe me here is a screen shot of the page i quoted earlier
http://www.flickr.com/photos/moogocow3/1485488456/
Modified by Evil M0nkey at 3:50 PM 10/4/2007
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Re: Well then (01accordsauce)
ok good glad it worked, but dont do the timing belt at 60K, i always was told 80-90K on a honda. Other cars (domestic) i would change at 60k. I wouldnt any higher then 105K though.
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Re: Well then (accord99power)
alrighty then ok i'm not gunna argue anymore i was told 60k at the honda dealership when i bought the car and in the manual
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Re: Well then (01accordsauce)
yeah, it was me, so... It's a frequently asked question that is easily searchable (if thats even a word )
does this look like I was giving you a "hard time"?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TouringAccord »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">next time please search, this has been covered many times.
it's also located in the Accord FAQ.</TD></TR></TABLE>
It wasn't that you didn't look hard enough, you didn't look period. I have it in the FAQ because it's a Frequently Asked Question. And if you would have done any searching you would have noticed that by the amount of hits you got back from a search.
And... so just because you are new you dont have to follow the same rules everyone else has too?? no, there are site rules (ToS) and then there are each individual forum rules. It doesn't matter if you are new or have been a member for 4+ years, everyone has to follow the rules.
I understand that new people sign up to the forum sometimes because they have a problem and need help. Thats fine, but understand that this forum isn't new and most questions have already been asked and answered more than once. So the members aren't going to want to keep seeing the same sets of questions get asked over and over on a weekly basis. So instead of posting right away take an extra 10-15 minutes, or more, and search for your answer before posting. If you need to know how to use the search feature there is a link for that in the FAQ as well. Most of the time it's faster to search and find your answer than it is to post and wait for someone to come along and then read/respond to your question.
Also, if you want to continue this wait until you are a full member and then PM me and we can continue this discussion then.
This thread is to further discuss the timing belt change interval.
does this look like I was giving you a "hard time"?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TouringAccord »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">next time please search, this has been covered many times.
it's also located in the Accord FAQ.</TD></TR></TABLE>
It wasn't that you didn't look hard enough, you didn't look period. I have it in the FAQ because it's a Frequently Asked Question. And if you would have done any searching you would have noticed that by the amount of hits you got back from a search.
And... so just because you are new you dont have to follow the same rules everyone else has too?? no, there are site rules (ToS) and then there are each individual forum rules. It doesn't matter if you are new or have been a member for 4+ years, everyone has to follow the rules.
I understand that new people sign up to the forum sometimes because they have a problem and need help. Thats fine, but understand that this forum isn't new and most questions have already been asked and answered more than once. So the members aren't going to want to keep seeing the same sets of questions get asked over and over on a weekly basis. So instead of posting right away take an extra 10-15 minutes, or more, and search for your answer before posting. If you need to know how to use the search feature there is a link for that in the FAQ as well. Most of the time it's faster to search and find your answer than it is to post and wait for someone to come along and then read/respond to your question.
Also, if you want to continue this wait until you are a full member and then PM me and we can continue this discussion then.
This thread is to further discuss the timing belt change interval.
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Re: 2001 Accord Maintnence schedule (Evil M0nkey)
My question is this - does the owner's manual really say to do it at 60,000 miles?
The maintenance schedule for my '99 has it at the 105,000 miles / seven year interval, even for severe conditions.
Of course, my car will be nine years old next week... (I bought it on October 13, 1998).
The maintenance schedule for my '99 has it at the 105,000 miles / seven year interval, even for severe conditions.
Of course, my car will be nine years old next week... (I bought it on October 13, 1998).
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Re: Well then (01accordsauce)
1998-2002 accords all models under normal driving conditions it is 7 years or 105K whichever comes first. Under SEVERE driving conditions it is 60K
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don't mean to jack the thread but, I bought my 97 Accord SE used, and I don't know if my timing belt was ever changed. It has 172,xxx miles on it right now. Is there away I can check?
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Re: Well then (01accordsauce)
okay "listen" to this.
We are trying to help you save money, but by all means go spend a grand and shut up about it, or wait til 85-90k and get it done. I personally drove my car til a 130k on the same belt, and it still looked new when they took it off.
BTW, Touringaccord is a moderator here, so yeah, he can tell you what to do. Don't like it? Leave.
Don't be an asshat and expect peolpe to be nice and want to help you.
We are trying to help you save money, but by all means go spend a grand and shut up about it, or wait til 85-90k and get it done. I personally drove my car til a 130k on the same belt, and it still looked new when they took it off.
BTW, Touringaccord is a moderator here, so yeah, he can tell you what to do. Don't like it? Leave.
Don't be an asshat and expect peolpe to be nice and want to help you.
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You should replace them regardless of mileage after a certain number of years ( I would guesstimate 8) just as a precautionary thing.
Mileage wise, anywhere from 80-100k I would have it replaced.
Like Evil Monkey said, he hasn't seen one break - neither have I but it's better to be safe than sorry.
Mileage wise, anywhere from 80-100k I would have it replaced.
Like Evil Monkey said, he hasn't seen one break - neither have I but it's better to be safe than sorry.
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Re: when to change timing belt?
You should replace them regardless of mileage after a certain number of years ( I would guesstimate 8) just as a precautionary thing.
Mileage wise, anywhere from 80-100k I would have it replaced.
Like Evil Monkey said, he hasn't seen one break - neither have I but it's better to be safe than sorry.
Mileage wise, anywhere from 80-100k I would have it replaced.
Like Evil Monkey said, he hasn't seen one break - neither have I but it's better to be safe than sorry.
Is this one 105k or 7 years? I am interested in what the current info from Honda is but also what is reasonable. I think that if it's 7 years or even 8 years, now that it has been 11 years it needs to be done right away.
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Re: when to change timing belt?
yes, it should be replaced. When mileage and time is given for an interval, you use whichever comes first. So for a 105k or 7yrs interval... If you get to 105k miles within say 5 years then you do it then, but say in 7 years you have only put 80k miles on it you would still do it because it's been 7 years.
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Re: when to change timing belt?
Hi there Mom here with no car experience. I have a 2001 Honda Accord with 54,000 miles on it the timing belt was changed in 2011 before I bought the car last year. Do I need to change the timing belt again this year? Thanks in advance
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Re: (Evil M0nkey)
i don't see what the problem is here? The Owners manual recommends replacing the timing belt at 60,000 miles. They wouldn't just say that, there's a reason for that because the belts could break and cause damage to your engine which what happened to my subaru just recently. Plus it's not a waste of money ither for myself because i'm not poor
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